You need DA Form 2166-8-1, and this page gets you to the file and through it. Start with what the form is: NCOER COUNSELING AND SUPPORT FORM, used to ncoer counseling and support form. Check next that you have the right version — the edition dated October 2011 is the one published here, and its status is not stated. Then look at the size before you begin, because 1 page(s) and roughly 200 fields tell you how long this will take.
Now decide who does the writing. Normally you enter your own particulars, then hand the sheet to the unit administrative office for review. If you work in that office, you enter what the individual brings you. From there the path is the same for everyone: G-1 is responsible for the form, and AR 623-3 tells you what triggers it and where it ends up. Look at the directive first whenever your case departs from the ordinary.
Work from the top down, one block at a time. First the name — copy it from your official records rather than writing it the way you usually do. Then the identification number, then the unit, then today's date. Fill these before anything else. When the form reaches a file cabinet or a database, these are the entries someone searches on, so get them right before you worry about the rest.
In the body of the form, tab from field to field instead of clicking around. The tab order follows how the form was constructed, which keeps you from missing a box. For check boxes and option buttons, click them. If you find a set where the choices are exclusive, expect your new selection to clear the previous one. Keep an eye on long entries as you type: fields built for one line will not wrap, and what overflows the width will print truncated even though your screen shows all of it. At that point move the text into remarks or onto a continuation. And when something does not apply to you, say so in the field — write the entry that means "none" rather than leaving white space a reviewer has to interpret.
Sign at the end and not before. Use ink or the electronic method your office accepts; whatever the state of the entries, an unsigned form is still a draft. When a reviewer, approver or witness has to sign as well, collect those signatures in printed block order and make sure each one is dated the day it was applied, not the day you started. Then read the form through once from the beginning. Three faults account for most rejections: a required field left blank, an identification number with two digits swapped, and a date whose day and month are reversed. Add a fourth if you began from an old working copy — data left over from the last time will travel forward untouched.
Read the Privacy Act statement when it appears on the page, before you fill in the personal details it covers. It sets out the authority for collecting the information, the purpose behind it, the routine uses it may be put to, and whether your disclosure is required or voluntary. Then keep in mind what you have created — a completed copy carries personal data, and you handle and store it under the rules that apply to such records.
Download the form
Then choose a file to download. What you will see offered is PDF, and the only question you need to answer is whether you are typing or writing. Type, and you want the fillable pdf, where the entry areas respond to your keyboard. Write, and you want the printable pdf, which you print empty and complete with a pen. The layout does not change between them, so pick whichever fits how you plan to work today.
Once the file is on your machine, open it deliberately. A pdf will usually launch in your browser, which reads well enough but does not always hold what you type; certain viewers display the fields and then discard your entries. Save the download to a folder, open it from there in a dedicated reader, and test one field and one save before you commit to filling the whole thing.
Then simply download. There is no charge, no sign-up and no email to hand over, and the file that arrives is exactly what the publisher released.
What the form asks for
- ADDRESS
- APFT2
- APFT2a
- APFT_Date
- APFT_Height
- APFT_Standard
- APFT_Weight
- APPOINTED_DUTIES
- BulletComments1
- BulletComments10
- BulletComments11
- BulletComments12
- BulletComments2
- BulletComments3
- BulletComments4
- BulletComments5
- BulletComments6
- BulletComments7
- BulletComments8
- BulletComments9
- CMDCodedropdwnList1
- CMDCodedropdwnListBX2
- ContentArea1
- DUTIES
Now send it on. Follow the routing in the prescribing directive, which will point you to a named office, to your unit administrative channel, or to your own file. Take a copy before you release it. From there the record follows the retention schedule for the series, and neither you nor the receiving clerk shortens or extends that on local judgement.
When another document has to travel with this one, find it by series and number. Forms in the DA series sharing a proponent or a governing directive are commonly used in combination, and anything cited on the face of your form generally goes with it. Assemble continuation sheets, covers and transmittals before you send the package rather than in response to a query.
The next time you open this form from your own files, check the edition date first. Revisions come from the proponent without warning to you, so the only reliable step is to hold your copy against the current edition before filling it in again. Records you already completed under a superseded edition stand, and you do not go back to rework them.
Finally, know where you are. These are copies of published Department of the Army forms, made available for you to download. The site is independent, unconnected to the Department of the Army, and in no position to issue forms or to promise that any office will accept yours. None of this is legal advice. If a specific entry puzzles you, if you are unsure a requirement applies, or if eligibility is in question, put the question to G-1 or to the administrative office serving your unit.
Questions and answers
- What is DA Form 2166-8-1?
- NCOER COUNSELING AND SUPPORT FORM
- Which edition is current?
- October 2011
- Who is responsible for this form?
- G-1
- In which formats can it be downloaded?